***Official---You suck no free roam mode***

[Scorp]

I am kidding. Just wanted to let you know it isn't a big deal to not have free roam. Baby steps. Someday this game will have it all.

[roadweasel]

oooookaaaaayyyy.....

[KRB]

I personally hate Free roam, so this was a blessing. I would be in favor for a free ride option, where you and a bunch of people can get together and go out on a tour on say a City/Street circuit that people can show off there rides and enjoy scenary.

Keith

[kevmeister]

yeah, just be careful when yer free-roaming; if you happen to hear the song "dueling banjo's"...take your right foot and place it VERY firmly on the accelerator pedal otherwise...you JUST might end up squealling like a pig and have to pray for "Deliverance" from evil... LOL

[KEN]

KRB, that's pretty much exactly whats going to happen with the whole free ride deal. It will just be a unique track where you can drive to different locations with player collisions off. I'd also like to complete that stunt track that EA never got around to releasing.

[KRB]

KRB, that's pretty much exactly whats going to happen with the whole free ride deal. It will just be a unique track where you can drive to different locations with player collisions off. I'd also like to complete that stunt track that EA never got around to releasing.

Sounds perfect to me :)

[porsche_boy]

i personally love ree roam driving
so i was shocked after reading "no free roam mode"
the second best feature after car building gone :-(

[KRB]

i personally love ree roam driving
so i was shocked after reading "no free roam mode"
the second best feature after car building gone :-(

You are aware this is an Indie project right?

How big of a world would you have expected?

Im just curious.

[roadweasel]

mmm if this means we'll have beta faster then by all means lets not whimper about it ok? I'm sure Ken hates NOT adding it now so lets support his decision and be happy things are moving along!

[Scorp]

This is why we need guns so I can shoot the noobs!

[braband86]

I agree the sooner we can get our hands on a working version of the game the better. If it comes later rather than sooner than great just one more reason this game with be the greatest ever! Keep up the good work dev's we appreciate every bit of energy you put into this game.

[porsche_boy]

i think they shouldn't delete the free roam modus from the list:(
cause there you can show off your rides meet friends.....2much2list:(
hope i dont get missunderstood
porsche_boy

[Scorp]

This really didn't need it's own thread. The decision has been made, it might be implemented at a later date..

[Shay Feral]

No free roam is a bummer, I was really hoping for that.

[DerangedPony]

Lets get the basic game going first and then we can worry about this.

[cargasm]

I have no problem with getting rid of free roam. As awesome as it would have been for the amount of time and work it would take to put it in the game and get it working right I think it would be better to spend that time on the rest of the game and get it done sooner.
keep up the great work!

[roadweasel]

Porscheboy, there is already a thread for this topic so kindly refer your comments to what is posted there. Thank you and we appreciate your input in the right place! This thread is now merged in the correct thread for further posting.

[Jake Ryan]

This is not some mass produced monster with the backing of a billion dollar game maker. This is an independent production, being scraped together, BY GAMERS FOR GAMERS. These people are on our side people, not the bottom line profit number. Free roam is out for now, but still on the list of things to do. We really really need to be thankful this has EVEN come together in the first place. I know I am.

[KRB]

You are aware this is an Indie project right?

How big of a world would you have expected?

Im just curious.

You never answered my questions.

Did you not read this post?


I personally hate Free roam, so this was a blessing. I would be in favor for a free ride option, where you and a bunch of people can get together and go out on a tour on say a City/Street circuit that people can show off there rides and enjoy scenary.

Keith

That takes care of all the little things you are whining about.

Read, think, reread, rethink, then as a last option post your thoughts.

Keith

[porsche_boy]

you didnt caught what i'm meaning
i just wanted a small world of 3-5 blocks to drive to the dealer/junkyard in your own car
i didn't expected a world like in nfs undercover or burnout paradise just to drive round the block if you're bored
so don't complain about my things i want to say
i know it's a free time project and i don't expect somthing that is impossible
i dont want to be your enemy i just say what would be cool for me
pls understand me
porsche_boy

[Scorp]

you didnt caught what i'm meaning
i just wanted a small world of 3-5 blocks to drive to the dealer/junkyard in your own car
i didn't expected a world like in nfs undercover or burnout paradise just to drive round the block if you're bored
so don't complain about my things i want to say
i know it's a free time project and i don't expect somthing that is impossible
i dont want to be your enemy i just say what would be cool for me
pls understand me
porsche_boy

Yes we understand. Now you must understand that it isn't going to happen. Not now at least. They are working hard to get us a playable beta as soon as they can. Which we are all greatful for. Maybe later free roam will be implemented, but for now it is put on the back burner.

[cobra96]

:D this just means more time spent of getting other things done...i love it...im not a huge fan of free roam right now...i would rather have everything up and running first because thats what i want to do is race...yeah sure add it later...but concentrate on the important stuff first :D

[Chaul]

In TDU, there was free roaming, but it didn't work that well as the roads and official tracks were often empty and there were some lag problems. Plus the roads were very cornered making it difficult to drive over any jumps, and the map was huuge. If you ever found someone in free roaming mode, you could set up a race from point A to point B on the free roam game map. The other official tracks were just marked circuits or tracks (separate from free roam mode). The shops were along the road, but you first had to find them for them to show up on the map and get access to them. Then you could warp to those places, but you'd still have to go through the free roam mode to get into the store, I think. Sure, something like that might be cool, I just didn't enjoy my stay in that particular virtual world for too long... I also think it would take a very long time to create the model for such a world map in decent proportions and detail (smooth roads, please). I would just be happy to race something at this point.

[ROKKET]

i can waite for a freeroam ,,,,,,,, the game is whats important cause these guys been ROCKING on it so let them decide

[gcountach]

In TDU, there was free roaming, but it didn't work that well as the roads and official tracks were often empty and there were some lag problems. Plus the roads were very cornered making it difficult to drive over any jumps, and the map was huuge. If you ever found someone in free roaming mode, you could set up a race from point A to point B on the free roam game map. The other official tracks were just marked circuits or tracks (separate from free roam mode). The shops were along the road, but you first had to find them for them to show up on the map and get access to them. Then you could warp to those places, but you'd still have to go through the free roam mode to get into the store, I think. Sure, something like that might be cool, I just didn't enjoy my stay in that particular virtual world for too long... I also think it would take a very long time to create the model for such a world map in decent proportions and detail (smooth roads, please). I would just be happy to race something at this point.

You didn't have to go in free roam to them after you found them. Clicking on them inside the map would take you inside them instantly. I liked the idea of the free-roam, but I agree with you that the unsmooth roads made driving a bit crazier than it should. I recall driving a Ferrari Enzo I think it was and was going 100-something on the freeway and hit a bump/hill in the middle of the freeway and was sent 30 feet in the air and over the freeway wall onto the grass... when I finally came to a stop, I though "wtf was that!?"

I never expected them to create a virtual world of that scale, to even create such a map would take more time than they've spent now just for the world alone... not worth it. I'm a little bummed that free-roam won't be in there, but I'm sure it's not a dead feature. Once they get a beta out, I'm sure they'll be working to see if they can put it in. If it's one of the biggest hurtles that was keeping the beta from coming out, I'm all for putting it on the backburner for now.

[Ayce]

As I see it, free ride/roam should be a connecting area between race tracks where we have several meeting points to chat, show off you wheels, buy/sell cars/parts etc. Once you decide to race, you can head off to whatever your choice is, and meet there. When the pit closes, everyone spawns near the point they entered the pit, and can drive to the next meeting place of choice.
Howzat? :D

[DerangedPony]

The whole idea of free roam is really to show off your ride. Why cant we just have a Ice cream joint or something where the cars are all parked (like a car show) and we can just chat and look at other cars. Then, at the show, we can call people out and those people load into the agreed race?

[DanWhoElse]

The whole idea of free roam is really to show off your ride. Why cant we just have a Ice cream joint or something where the cars are all parked (like a car show) and we can just chat and look at other cars. Then, at the show, we can call people out and those people load into the agreed race?

This is what i was thinking!!!!

[Chaul]

The whole idea of free roam is really to show off your ride. Why cant we just have a Ice cream joint or something where the cars are all parked (like a car show) and we can just chat and look at other cars. Then, at the show, we can call people out and those people load into the agreed race?
Sounds cool. Then I'm picturing in my head the game pit. You know, in PU we had driver name and the car he/she had picked in text. I would love to see a picture or the model of the selected cars loaded right there (maybe lined up at the bottom, with a checkbox for rough stats maybe, or just open the hood and zoom in, or something).

Or, then in more general terms, you could see what everyone has as the active car in a chat room, in show room style, pre-race, before the whole game pit has even been started. This sounds like what you are suggesting.

Or, maybe you could click on a player to see his whole garage.

This could create a whole lot of traffic sending those pictures and models back and forth.. but might be worth it. Who knows, maybe this is already done, lol.

[porsche_boy]

i think it wouldn't be too difficult too make a small town track where you can drive to the dealer
but i think the dev's know what they do so i don't worry too much about it
but after all i still think it should be there

[DerangedPony]

One thing I dont want is for the game to show the stats of my car. I can see giving basic stats but part of racing is not knowing exactly what your up against. Also, your garage should not be viewable unless you want it to be.

[Taigo]

i think it wouldn't be too difficult too make a small town track where you can drive to the dealer
but i think the dev's know what they do so i don't worry too much about it
but after all i still think it should be there

If you take a look, we haven´t said no to the idea, we are just too small to do it right now.I like the idea of the free roam and wouldn´t exitate in doing all the artwork required but it seems to have some safety and other technical issues, wich why it´s better to keep the idea on the refrigerator for a while.

It´s not a "no", it´s a "not now" :)

[porsche_boy]

i 've already heard that this probably getting later ingame but i was a little bit angry when i read about it so i was a bit unfriendly X(
sorry,KRB ;)
i haven't been angry on you
i was just angry about this so i was unfriendly to you
sorry again
porsche_boy

[DanWhoElse]

Not now is always better then no :D

[Chaul]

One thing I dont want is for the game to show the stats of my car. I can see giving basic stats but part of racing is not knowing exactly what your up against. Also, your garage should not be viewable unless you want it to be.
Rough stats is what I suggested. Driver and maybe car. Class, driver level, maybe keep the hood shut if you don't want to show off your engine. I don't really see what's the big deal about hiding or showing your stats. I wouldn't want to take my 50 hp car against something that had 10 times the power but looked exactly the same. Close battle for win is what I want to see and let driver skill decide the winner. Having the other car going circles around my car and still beating me by half a lap and laughing at me in the end, is not something I'm going to enjoy. If the cars were classified or something, that would be enough of a stat for me.

The only problem I see with too much stats is that it might be difficult to get a race going when the softest racers go running the other way when they see an opponent with 10 more horses in the engine.. :p

[Tate]

I personally don't see the big deal of having free roam and don't really think it's important to MWO.
I think it would take away from the fun of a "Build car, go race car" game.
And besides, sandbox games require a HUGE amount of code and security.

Think about it, right now there are ~1700 people here, imagine the clusterf*** on a saturday afternoon if we had ONE place to go park and chat. I also don't think it'll be very long before this game has around 5000 people playing it, now imagine that chaos.
I've played online free roam driving games and sure, 10-20 people is fine, but over 1000 would be a nightmare.
Not to mention put the release of this game out another 2-3 years and would be a LAG nightmare even with a great system and connection.
Now think about how annoying it will be to have to always maneuver around the guys parked in the road on the way to a race or back to the garage, because yes, there would be those guys.
In my opinion, free roam is unnecessary in MWO.

And for all you guys that just absolutely want a free roam game, we'll have this in a couple months:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-09-mafia-ii/54965

[gcountach]

I personally don't see the big deal of having free roam and don't really think it's important to MWO.
I think it would take away from the fun of a "Build car, go race car" game.
And besides, sandbox games require a HUGE amount of code and security.

Think about it, right now there are ~1700 people here, imagine the clusterf*** on a saturday afternoon if we had ONE place to go park and chat. I also don't think it'll be very long before this game has around 5000 people playing it, now imagine that chaos.
I've played online free roam driving games and sure, 10-20 people is fine, but over 1000 would be a nightmare.
Not to mention put the release of this game out another 2-3 years and would be a LAG nightmare even with a great system and connection.
Now think about how annoying it will be to have to always maneuver around the guys parked in the road on the way to a race or back to the garage, because yes, there would be those guys.
In my opinion, free roam is unnecessary in MWO.

And for all you guys that just absolutely want a free roam game, we'll have this in a couple months:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-09-mafia-ii/54965

It wasn't meant to be much more than a 3d avatar chat room, from what I understood, as in you would go right through cars (surely, right?). It was just meant to be a sort of social gathering idea with a 3d menu sorta built around it.

You're right though... if there were 100s of people in a server, main street would be very packed and a lot of data would have to be passed back and forth (what kind of car does player 1 have? where's he at? what about player 2.... so on)... I'm sure this, as well as many of the reasons you suggested, is why they decided to put the idea on the back burner for now. That's not to say, if it were to be implemented properly, it wouldn't be cool, but it wouldn't be the heart and soul that causes people to flock to the game.

[Pepsibottle1]

I'm sure the dev's have that figured out. As long as you have a decent server fast enough to handle that, you should be fine. Usually, the slow downs are caused by excruatingly slow ones clogged down by all the data

[Tate]

I'm sure the dev's have that figured out. As long as you have a decent server fast enough to handle that, you should be fine. Usually, the slow downs are caused by excruciatingly slow ones clogged down by all the data

It's kinda funny, you say that as if you believe servers don't cost anything to run. Especially "decent" ones.

[Nova[RR]]

Good luck devs on everything, I'm completly confident that our first beta that we recieve will keep us hooked till later updates come.

[Tomh]

We don't need free roaming to be able to drive, and race, so I say go ahead and leave it out, and just get the core of the game up and running.

[FuzzyDice21]

I dont think you need it a first but DEFIANTLY something I would want to see as an add on. That is the main thing that drew me to this game.

[ZER]

=D>!!!!No Free Roam!!!! :beer:

If I wanted Free roam, I'd pick up a NFS game, haven't picked a NFS game up since they implemented it in late 2003 with Underground.

[Shaft]

Id be happy with one Tri-Oval track, and a garage to tune my car, LOL. No free roam is no big deal.

[DaveMustaine]

Free roam will just bog down the system. Just leave it out and leave it as the same interface as the original.

[FuzzyDice21]

I like the idea of free roam is that it keeps the game fresh, and some people like that realistic factor of the game more than anything else. I am not saying that all uber amount of people on it at the same time, or have same insane huge map like TD, but do it where you and your friends can cruise around a little town and screw around. Beside old hot rodders invented "street racing"

[Creed]

I like the idea of free roam is that it keeps the game fresh, and some people like that realistic factor of the game more than anything else. I am not saying that all uber amount of people on it at the same time, or have same insane huge map like TD, but do it where you and your friends can cruise around a little town and screw around. Beside old hot rodders invented "street racing"

I'd leave free roam out, i apoligize to all who like this idea, but with all the free roam games ive played die off quicker than 4 months time.

If anything id play Tri-oval Team ctf.

{The Killer} Ex-Mco'r

Owned: El camino,Chevy 32 rod (drag),ford rancher,mercury sable,caddliac,Chevy 64 impala, T-bird, 67 Mustang (tri-oval),57 Bel air,Chevy Nova , 420 66 GTO(wasn't the best car)

YouTube - Motor city online intro
(Motor city online intro)

[FuzzyDice21]

I'd leave free roam out, i apoligize to all who like this idea, but with all the free roam games ive played die off quicker than 4 months time.


If you speak of TDU or NFS then ya cause TDU was an arcade game for little kiddies to do 200 around some map that had no gravity. NFS had good maps but some stupid traffic patterns and annoying cops. I personally will continue to fight for free roam. Every time I play Forza 2 or think back to playing MCO I always think, "man this game would be awesome with a freeroam." Just cause its fun to cruise around in some Sick rubber smoking monster at normal speeds, then just launch it from a stop light or a rolling start. If anything make it an optional add on were the "tri ovalers" just have tri oval (and what ever other tracks) and run around that till they puke, but the people that want free roam can download it and roam to to their hearts content.

[gcountach]

I'd leave free roam out, i apoligize to all who like this idea, but with all the free roam games ive played die off quicker than 4 months time.

Someone really needs to try out Burnout Paradise....

[Chaul]

Most "hit" games these days are made on a 6 month planned life/support period. The studios milk on the novelty and then let it drop. Even NFS PU years ago only had 6 months of updates even though the servers stayed online a little longer. They were losing money on the server upkeep for sure. The last patch still didn't fix the known bugs, but they were already developing the next title or something so no more patches ever came. :p

Free roam might be a cool thing, but you can't develop something like that just for the sake of having it in. You have to have a great plan for what are people supposed to be doing out there. If it's just for cruising, it'll die out very soon and no one will be there. It's also going to take a great deal of bandwidth to get a big group in one place to make it any fun. It's not like having a controlled bunch of 4 or so racing in a pit.. It's more like a few dozen cars closely packed together in free roam optimally, just because people have a tendency to "flock" where everybody else is too.

TDU for one, just dropped the more distant cars, but still it had voice chat.. there was always someone with the send button constantly down and I kept wondering where on earth is that noise coming from. Then I found the switch to disable in-game chat and was a lot happier.

[Steel]

How long would it take to get bored of free roam.....about the time it took to read this. I think the devs should be focused on more important things...imo. :alberteinstein:

[LS1_69_GTO]

Honestly don't need free roam. I would much rather the Devs spend the enormous amount of time it would take to create free roam on other core pieces of the game.

[BlakjeKaas]

To be honest, it seems to me that most posters in this thread don't have an own opinion.

I mean, I never heard anyone say (before it was anounced) that free roam would be boring.
I think free roam should be in the game but not yet.

[gcountach]

To be honest, it seems to me that most posters in this thread don't have an own opinion.

I mean, I never heard anyone say (before it was anounced) that free roam would be boring.
I think free roam should be in the game but not yet.

I don't think anyone hates the idea of freeroam, but they felt it's inclusion wasn't a requirement. Since, up til this announcement (and subsequent thread), it was going to be there anyway, they didn't really care as it was just icing on the cake to them. Now that it's been cut (or at least, won't make it in for a while), they felt the need to establish this fact, perhaps to let the Dev Team know it's not like they "failed us" or anything.

[FuzzyDice21]

I dont think you need it a first but DEFIANTLY something I would want to see as an add on. That is the main thing that drew me to this game.

I posted that almost a week ago and that still stands I am not "upset" that it aint gana launch with the beta, but thought that it was something that should make its way into the game.

[porsche_boy]

i totally agree, fuzzydice21
i love freeroam, just to cruise around at normal speeds
i'm gonna fight for it too,
at least as an add-on
yours; porsche_boy

[roadweasel]

i totally agree, fuzzydice21
i love freeroam, just to cruise around at normal speeds
i'm gonna fight for it too,
at least as an add-on
yours; porsche_boy

No need to "fight" Porscheboy, free roam is not under the axe, it's just on the back burner for now. Good things take time. Let us get our game up and work the basics out ok? We want to add lots of cool stuff eventually. That's why we ask for ideas from the community!;)

[Matty]

Agreed, Free Roam is quite a feature, and as boring as some people may think, it can be a blast when u can just sit and idle while a buddy rolls up beside and smokes the goodyears into nothing, if Free Roam itself will take on a damage/performace impacting it could be a riot of fun and sillyness... or not at all who knows! But i think that everyone else will agree that the foundation MWO and of this release, is based on the racing community. We could all still cruise around the farm roads and what-not, but it really isnt all that important when we originally were focused on one thing... MWO! FreeRoam should be an add-on, and possible an offline feature? hmmm? hehe.

Well theres my two cents.. Ty :D

[ROKKET]

well spoken matty ,,,,,,,,,,,,, and offline free roam would be amazing thing ( for those who have young ones always bugging to play)

[makavilebos1]

i will love it anyway you guys seem fit thanks for all your hard work Dev team you guys Rock.............makavilebos Bosses

[Graham1968]

Personally, I would love to see free roam. But not like others... I wont fight for it.. I wont not agree to it.. I'm just ready for the release of the game. Whatever you Devs give us, ill be happy with. If you give us more later then GREAT can't wait. I'm just ready to get rolling.

So how about we all wait patiently for whatever we get :)

[kevmeister]

MCO never had a free-roam on it and look how many of us that played it wound up here, talking about how great the "MCO experience" was for us. just a thought, but maybe that tells us just how much we need OR don't need it...

;)

[BoDarville]

MCO never had a free-roam on it and look how many of us that played it wound up here, talking about how great the "MCO experience" was for us. just a thought, but maybe that tells us just how much we need OR don't need it...

;)

My thought to a tee... I never cared for free roam much.

[Tiqi]

No need to "fight" Porscheboy, free roam is not under the axe, it's just on the back burner for now. Good things take time. Let us get our game up and work the basics out ok? We want to add lots of cool stuff eventually. That's why we ask for ideas from the community!;)
I've always liked freeroam, I used to spend a lot of time in NFS Carbon cruizing around, exploring the city, taking screenies of my car on different spots etc. It's nice that you can also drive your car whitout having to compete for the first place in a race all the time.

I'm happy to hear that freeroam will be implemented into the game. I don't really care whether that is from the beginning or later on. With or without freeroam, it'll be awesome anyway when Motor World will be released.

[BoDarville]

I personally hate Free roam, so this was a blessing. I would be in favor for a free ride option, where you and a bunch of people can get together and go out on a tour on say a City/Street circuit that people can show off there rides and enjoy scenary.

Keith



Not into free roam either. Thanks anyways. Free roam is to much like NFS and I dont play those games.

[MoparTM]

I peronally love being able to just cruise around in my Saab Sonett irl, I wasn't expecting like a nfs size free roam maybe just a small city with some roads and a big open salt flat or something haha

[Chaul]

One problem with free roam on a single map is again the number of players in the visible area, at least potential players. I hear that 8 to 12 should be possible, but what happens when more than that pack together. In other games I've seen that the extra cars simply disappear or start flickering, or suddenly reappear sideways in front of your car while you are doing 100mph. Maybe it might be possible to cut back on the bandwidth for free roam to allow more players at the expense of accuracy. You don't need to race in free roam. If you want to race, it would be a separate instance of the space detached from the game world so that others wouldn't disturb the timing.

I was kinda dreaming of being able to spectate a race without interfering or having any interaction with the game, just to watch it. Also block spectator chat at least during the race. But, I don't know would spectators be possible even technically.. It would open a few possibilities with game modes and maybe mechanics. You could see how a certain car behaved in a race and then offer to buy it later. Or you could just watch how someone raced. But if spectators used up too much bandwidth just by watching, it's better to forget about it. Wouldn't be fun if there were more spectators than racers. Or maybe you could make the spectators pay a tiny bit so they wouldn't watch races all the time.

[powerprop]

I'm not against free roam, but I think it's not the big deal of the game.

But maybe you could take a city race (with a starting/finish line that is the same and with some shortcuts) and allow players to drive on it in a "no-race" mode. No money to the first who finish, maybe just some exp points if the game work with experience and not time (after you drive the car so you get some experience) with many laps, maybe a race you can enter even if the event is started (So I can do 10 laps alone and at the 20th lap we are 8 on the circuit. Maybe traffic , heavy traffic ( so player sometime start burning their tires and cross the yellow line then cross the red light because you don't want to wait another 3 lights)

Just an idea that passed through my mind. But it could please the people who want free roam.

Also it is somewhere I could try my 50hp car against a 500hp one just for fun(I know I will lose, but it is still funny to see a car with hp taking 4 cars on you on the launch)
Or I could try a car with small hp against another with big hp on 2 or 3 curves, even if I know that the guy will get me in the next straight

[RICKSTER]

This is not some mass produced monster with the backing of a billion dollar game maker. This is an independent production, being scraped together, BY GAMERS FOR GAMERS. These people are on our side people, not the bottom line profit number. Free roam is out for now, but still on the list of things to do. We really really need to be thankful this has EVEN come together in the first place. I know I am.

I agree with you a hundred percent on that. The dev team is not like EA thats for sure. I just cant wait to see this game going strong and watch EA sit back sucking there thumbs and crying like a baby. Keep up the good work guys.....:)

[powerprop]

EA almost made me cry when they closed the servers for the ******* sims and for another game.. I hope the will cry...

This game is gonna raise the standards of racing games for sure. Keep up the good work it's really appreciated

[Pie]

I think freeroam would be nice in a user-controlled way. I'm not sure how you guys are going with your server, probably similar to MCO, but I never played MCO so I don't know lol.

Anyway, make it so a user can create a small lobby to invite friends. And you and your friends can have a block to cruise around, park up and chat or whatever. Mini street drags anyone? Just an Idea. Kind of like a private lobby to hang out with friends, hold team meetings, show off your rides, etc.

Just an Idea. Now is not the time for the devs to be concerned with something like this anyway.

[Matty]

I think freeroam would be nice in a user-controlled way. I'm not sure how you guys are going with your server, probably similar to MCO, but I never played MCO so I don't know lol.

Anyway, make it so a user can create a small lobby to invite friends. And you and your friends can have a block to cruise around, park up and chat or whatever. Mini street drags anyone? Just an Idea. Kind of like a private lobby to hang out with friends, hold team meetings, show off your rides, etc.

Just an Idea. Now is not the time for the devs to be concerned with something like this anyway.

What he said... :D

[Matty]

Something that could allow you to waste gas and have to fill up again... spend your hard earn'ed clams on uncle sam's gas tax!

[BSRacing]

putting in free roam will be a complete waste of space. stick to what it should be about!!! BUILDING your car & RACING your car. PERIOD!!!

and i did play MCO from the start to the finish and free roam was NOT needed for that game to rock!!!!
as im very sure it isnt going to be needed here!!!

enough said :D:D:D

[baddog_1_2k]

free roam isn't a huge deal but I certainly see alot of illegal drag racing on the streets of MWO and doing a "power tour" like hot rod mag

[mtuggle86]

Id be happy with one Tri-Oval track, and a garage to tune my car, LOL. No free roam is no big deal.

Im with the guy mco didnt have free room I was happy with just a chat room at the main menu I really only would Buy, Sell and Biuld cars and race Tri-Oval/Goose Point
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[chrome_freak]

what about just staying like the beta to just be able to host a cruising on a small freeroam map like we have it in the beta?

[LoneWolf]

a bit of an old post to bump uh

[BredCooper]

KRB, that's pretty much exactly whats going to happen with the whole free ride deal. It will just be a unique track where you can drive to different locations with player collisions off. I'd also like to complete that stunt track that EA never got around to releasing.

Stunt Track from MCO , remember there was that burning ring where you can jump through or of what? :)

Well it would be cool to drive with some Players in a City and kinda givin it a life ...haha no I like how the things are moving.Keep it up...Alpha rocks...
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If the free roam stays in future for one player (so offline) , where could be a diner there you drive to and enter the diner's chat to talk/speak to eachother or check out latest news about actiivaty in mwo...

[LoneWolf]

Althou we would love to have an online virtual city to free roam and interact will the rest of the people it would require a masive dedicated server running wich we can not have with our budget.

Besides with the massive amount of data traffic only very few people will be able to get a decent ping and desent lack of lag.

I'm not saying it's imposible, but not planed for MWO.

Maybe in the far future we will see something either for MWO or other unleaded games proyect. but for now... nope.

[Pie]

I was refraining from posting in a dead topic but since it seems to be alive again. Look at what I posted up there, that is basically what the MWOcity map in alpha is and if they were to keep it and polish it up a bit, that would be good enough for me. Not to mention it would work well as a sort of test track.

[mazdaspeed_Demon]

would be cool to do what like Midnight club LA Edition style free roam where you can warp to the races or you can drive to them. Free roam kinda makes the games seem a little more realistic then the old arcade style. MY two cents worth.

[BredCooper]

Well, I think the city we will have in future just could be a race for private matchs or cruise whatever you wanna do haha.

But MP Free Roaming is not that important...If the Menu Art will be how we see on one screenshot with the chat (mco says hi :)) Free Roaming nah...:-/ Let it be what you have planned.Chatting and having Radio is awesome :) mhm...

[chrome_freak]

nice ideas ^^

@ lonewolf we know that this is an indie project so we cant have a server for that i know but what about making a little map like in the alpha just for testing and if you wanna go for a cruise with a friend you can invite him for a cruise and it stays p2p based what about that?

[LoneWolf]

nice ideas ^^

@ lonewolf we know that this is an indie project so we cant have a server for that i know but what about making a little map like in the alpha just for testing and if you wanna go for a cruise with a friend you can invite him for a cruise and it stays p2p based what about that?

As long as it is p2p based we can do it. Althou i don't quite see the meaning of it. But we would be fools not to meet our player's demands on this aspects.

One of the things i had in my mind was to have a circuit test and drag test complex either in the city map or in a separated map where a player could host it and allow other players to join along at any given time.

But this subject hasn't been talked over with the staff, so it's just an idea.

[Steel]

Maybe a route 66 leading to the outskirts of town.......

[chrome_freak]

As long as it is p2p based we can do it. Althou i don't quite see the meaning of it. But we would be fools not to meet our player's demands on this aspects.

One of the things i had in my mind was to have a circuit test and drag test complex either in the city map or in a separated map where a player could host it and allow other players to join along at any given time.

But this subject hasn't been talked over with the staff, so it's just an idea.

for the idea of the testtracks i think it would be nice if there was a city map with the circuit lets say in the west and a dragstrip in the east and your garage is about in the middle so if you wanna test your car on the strip you back out of your garage to the east and the same for the circuit to the west.
and if some players wanna test together they can join each other on the same map

and if the idea of water and oil temp are gonna be done it also has the effect of drivin your engine warm before testing howz that? :D

[Pie]

10 minutes at idle takes care of the oil/water temp.

[chrome_freak]

yeah but if you drive to the testtrack at low revs she also gets warmed up

[Pie]

what really gets it warmed up is starting it and immediately throwing it in gear and flooring it.

[Steel]

what really gets it warmed up is starting it and immediately throwing it in gear and flooring it.

Kind of like your 1st date eh :D

[LoneWolf]

if the idea of water and oil temp are gonna be done it also has the effect of drivin your engine warm before testing howz that?


Fluid dynamics are going to be incorporated, althou it is a doble sided sword. Some people going to want to log in and make a quick race before say... go to work. If they going to have to wait for the car to have the right temperatures before taking it to the limit it might play against us.

But maybe we can add a little "Practice before race" option where the host will chose an amout of practice time to get the car in shape before racing. 5 min 10 mins 20 mins...

Personally im not very fan of fast paced games, but we need to listen to demands too.

[Pie]

Kind of like your 1st date eh :D

Absolutely correct! Lol. Although women don't take that kind of treatment well either...

[gerbiepiep]

Absolutely correct! Lol. Although women don't take that kind of treatment well either...

Depends on what woman you're having a date with. :p