negative posts

[ROKKET]

Look all of these people who post doubts and complain , first off these guys are doing this for the love of a good racing game with friends and enemies alike
they are willing to listen to our ideas and to implement them when they can , DID EA do that for any of us? hell NO don't knock our dev team they have lives outside of this master planned car culture . we as a collective group do not want your moaning and groaning whiney comments if you have questions ASK but don't be lame and don't insult the hard work these guys are doing . no i am not a DEV no i am not the web ADMIN your lucky RW is cause you'd make one post against this game or its DEV's and you'd be gone faster than you found this site , and last of all I personally would like to thank the DEV's and RW for this site and all the HARD WORK thats put into everything they do

SO from ME and the RACERS AT THE READY !

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND EFFORT !!!!!!!!

[MichaelC4]

Well said ROKKET. I second this post. ENOUGH WITH THE NEGATIVE VIBE'S PEOPLE (take that crap over to EA's forums).

[KEN]

We are open to criticism, my post wasn't meant to lead a lynching. :) I just ask before you tear us a new one to actually look around. I will try and do better with posting updates on the front page, after all it only takes a few mins, but also it only takes a few seconds to do it here. So yes it is laziness on my part! Well noted. lol

[ROKKET]

oh my post wasn't meant as a lynching bud ,,,,,,,simply stating don't go postal on you or the dev's it'll tend to P_ _ _ off the rest of us , we were all brought together by the ideal of you the DEV's are building a game to replace the addiction / affliction and desire we all share as to a community of racers who thrive on the run and the interaction your creating
criticism is fine , my main agrevation is because of those who look at the front page and then spout off ,,,what they can't take the time and read the forums? look at the features thread for S_ _ TS sake its AWESOME ,,,,,how ever if a lynching is needed ,,MAY I LEAD IT!!!! heheheheh

[Allegedman]

Constructive criticism is welcome. Negative comments on the other hand should not receive any bacon or Klondike bars, or added fury from people who actually want to see this game through. most negative comments are from people who are impatient or people who don't understand the history with development or the background of this game.

[cargasm]

I say ignore the naysayers.. do we really want them and their negative attitude in our game anyway? and for everyone working hard on this game and everyone here supporting it :congrats:

[Taigo]

you'd be gone faster than you found this site , and last of all I personally would like to thank the DEV's and RW for this site and all the HARD WORK thats put into everything they do

SO from ME and the RACERS AT THE READY !

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND EFFORT !!!!!!!!

Thanks for your support buddy!
And don´t worry too much about it. We don´t.

The thing is that i could have deleted his post right as he did.
But i really believe in freedom of tought and free speech.
People has their rights to voice up their opinions, it´s just up to us to prove that they're wrong :)

[willyrich]

it´s just up to us to prove that they're wrong :)

AMEN brother.....

[makavilebos1]

thanks for all your guys hard work and time away from your fams everything look's SWEET one more thing F Ea.. MWO...WOOT

[gcountach]

Just remember the names of those who complained and when you see them in game just run them into the wall.

No, I kid. I kid. I wouldn't condone that. I'm above that... Still, accidents happen. :)

Keep up the good work, guys. Don't let the few rotten apples distract you from the bushels of good apples eagerly waiting.

[Bill_Wood]

You will always find whiners no matter what game it is. I've been playing a few online games and I see it all the time. They just don't have the patients that's all. Keep up the good work dev's.

[roadweasel]

heheh yeah they should remember who they're complaining to. I would imagine a smart programmer could write a lemon program in, thereby giving the complainers something to really complain about.
"My virtual car is a lemon!"
Either that or make their car visible to everyone else as a pacer or an old nash or something... lol
People are entitled to their opinion, even if it sucks.

[cobra96]

damn rokket, did i miss something? seems like im away from the computer for a couple of days and all this negativity happens...but i do agree with this...these guys are working hard to bring us this amazing piece of software and i for one apprecitate everything these guys are doing...let the negative people say what they want...all it does is show exactly how ignorant they are to our community...these will be the people who download our free game because all other racing games that they pay for have gotten boring and old...they will download this game and believe in what we all already see...so let them talk and let our community/game do the talking for us :D

[ROKKET]

see i love Road's idea give em a PACER with a slant 6 and a 3 on the floor , and cobra ,, you really didn't miss anything i always read the front page check all the threads and well i see whats going on as far as the progress the DEV team has made and i understand the hard work involved so when i see one of our dev's adding to the front page and its clearly shows to me he is unhappy about some bufoons negative comments well sorry ya'll i speak my mind simply put i'll just remember their names ,,and their mannerizm and once game is up and running it'll be them that eat CROW

[cobra96]

ah i see...well how bout u just concentrate on that first race against urs truely :D u will need ur mind to be clear if u even want a chance at finishing 1st

[ROKKET]

SMACK talking 101

sorry little buddy but i'm not worried about beating you , just about how many times you'll hit me to try and pass , or how many things you'll hit and put in my way for the next lap,
oh yes thats headlights you see in your rear view ,,,,,,,,,yes i am behind you but your almost a lap down by this point so just move over and make it easy on yourself

[cobra96]

haha...i promise u if i go a lap down u wont finish the race...MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[gcountach]

haha...i promise u if i go a lap down u wont finish the race...MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Maybe now is a good time to ask.... what do you guys have planned to keep people from going the wrong way?

[KEN]

Maybe now is a good time to ask.... what do you guys have planned to keep people from going the wrong way?

You will be able to send any of the game admins a saved replay from the race it occurs in. It will also log any chats you guys have so if you try to set someone up we will know ;). The admin back bone will have a 3 strike system, every time a strike occurs it adds to your permanent ban status which occurs on the third strike. 1st strike is a written warning and a 24 hour ban. 2 offense is a 1 week ban, and 3rd offense your @$$ is a grass.

Unless you guys want us to make it where the game resets you if you try to drive backwards. To me that's unrealistic though.

[Taigo]

heheh yeah they should remember who they're complaining to. I would imagine a smart programmer could write a lemon program in, thereby giving the complainers something to really complain about.
"My virtual car is a lemon!"
Either that or make their car visible to everyone else as a pacer or an old nash or something... lol
People are entitled to their opinion, even if it sucks.

No, we would never do something like that, it would be unfair and wrong.
Instead let´s make their drivers suffer some kind of morbid narcolepsy.
So their screen goes black randomly..

Hah!
What can i say, im too soft sometimes..

[Cheefa]

Wow you guys... I want to help so much , I have visual basic book wish i could help with something. always wanted to make another MotorCity game cause it was just the best thing out there. Would be beautiful if you could use the destruction of either GRiD or Paradise ULTIMATE BOX.. but im just kiddin anything with old school muscle and whistles with scoops is sexy ;)

[ROKKET]

oh hold on oh genius dev team,.,,,,,,,, will we have the option to run the tracks in reverse? to change things up a bit ya know

[KEN]

oh hold on oh genius dev team,.,,,,,,,, will we have the option to run the tracks in reverse? to change things up a bit ya know

You will be able to set forward/reverse track rules, weather conditions, and time of day.

[ROKKET]

glad you did not take offense to the way i posted but i hadn't seen the question arise so i had to ask

[KEN]

glad you did not take offense to the way i posted but i hadn't seen the question arise so i had to ask

The only way to offend me is to say we (the dev team) aren't or haven't been dedicating our lives to this project. :p Though I have to say there is a lot of positive energy going around since we brought on our new team members! Speaking of which I think its time I give them a honoring welcome post on the main site!

[cobra96]

yeah people driving in reverse has always been annoying to me...but i think making them transparent would be a good way of solving the problem...that way we just run straight through them

[DreadZer0]

yeah people driving in reverse has always been annoying to me...but i think making them transparent would be a good way of solving the problem...that way we just run straight through them

You mean like forza 2?

[Taigo]

Instead making complex rules or odd systems, we could just add a function in the player menu "Vote kick",
Something like when someone starts up a votation, all the players get some text on the corner of the screen "Vote kick ThA-ThundErCat: 1 = Yes 2 = No"
If the player get enought votes he is out..

So everyone in the room (race) could decide if a player is really harmfull, like he is just around screwing it up everything, lagging, using fool language and we still have a plausible game (without ghost cars, reseting cars, transparent walls and so on)

[roadweasel]

How about only allow the pit host a boot tab and if the host is asked to have someone leave, he can either do it or not. It worked that way in PU. I'd add a lock-out though as the boot-ee would sometimes try to crash the pit over and over and over which could cause issues.

[Scorp]

How about only allow the pit host a boot tab and if the host is asked to have someone leave, he can either do it or not.

I agree on this, wasn't MCO setup like this? It has been too many years. :banghead:

[roadweasel]

too many years indeed!

[cobra96]

Instead making complex rules or odd systems, we could just add a function in the player menu "Vote kick",
Something like when someone starts up a votation, all the players get some text on the corner of the screen "Vote kick ThA-ThundErCat: 1 = Yes 2 = No"
If the player get enought votes he is out..

So everyone in the room (race) could decide if a player is really harmfull, like he is just around screwing it up everything, lagging, using fool language and we still have a plausible game (without ghost cars, reseting cars, transparent walls and so on)

the only problem i have with this is that if someone has already taken me out of the race i cant restart and it costs me tons of money to repair...thats y i say just have it where they cant make the violation...maybe have a collisions on/off option before the race

[cobra96]

You mean like forza 2?

it might have been forza 2...i cant remember which game i played that did that

[Taigo]

the only problem i have with this is that if someone has already taken me out of the race i cant restart and it costs me tons of money to repair...thats y i say just have it where they cant make the violation...maybe have a collisions on/off option before the race

It wouldn´t be frequent since there will be possibility of getting kicked and it will solve the problem in long terms by educating ppl instead working around.

[ROKKET]

MCO was set up like that even in beta , and i agree with a host booting function rather than a group kick unless its the host that can start the kick vote, wouldn't want to be a host and get kicked out just cause i'm faster than they are

[Ayce]

How about only allow the pit host a boot tab and if the host is asked to have someone leave, he can either do it or not. It worked that way in PU. I'd add a lock-out though as the boot-ee would sometimes try to crash the pit over and over and over which could cause issues.

You have to be careful with that. I recall being booted from my own pit once. The guy joined in and booted everyone out. I thought it was lag, but when I got back to the lounge, he was there. I asked how it was done and I got FO for my answer. Never came back, thankfully.

[gcountach]

I would think it'd be best for an automatic reset/transparency/etc. if someone is going in reverse. A vote-kick/boot option would require people to stop racing or not pay attention to the road to pull off. Even if they boot them, the experience is ruined when someone wrecks into a wall trying to find his F1 button, or someone has to stop/slow down and gets passed because of it. Let the griefer be an idiot and just not be able to do anything and, when its convenient, the pit can boot him out.

Also, after reading this quote:

So everyone in the room (race) could decide if a player is really harmfull, like he is just around screwing it up everything, lagging, using fool language and we still have a plausible game (without ghost cars, reseting cars, transparent walls and so on)

I think there should be options as to why to kick someone. I imagine there will be some statistics to number of times booted, and if you see someone that's been booted 5 times, you would instantly think he's a griefer. However, there's other reasons someone might get kicked (lag, idle, etc) that shouldn't be lumped into the same group as someone who's actually set out to ruin the game for everyone.

Just my 2 cents though.

[cobra96]

as long as im not booted because im faster or higher rank im good...always hated being booted because everyone hates someone who kicks their ass

[roadweasel]

as long as im not booted because im faster or higher rank im good...always hated being booted because everyone hates someone who kicks their ass

well quit joining the noob pits Cobra, jeez pick on someone your own size! ;)

[mustang70]

cobra can't help it, thats all he can beat

[Ayce]

Oh jeeze, would you two PLEASE just shut up? :laugh:
You should start your own Smack Talkin' thread maybe? ;);)

[cobra96]

well quit joining the noob pits Cobra, jeez pick on someone your own size! ;)

lol i cant help it...gotta show these noobs how its really done


cobra can't help it, thats all he can beat

yeah thats right cuz i make everybody i race look like a noob :D


Oh jeeze, would you two PLEASE just shut up? :laugh:
You should start your own Smack Talkin' thread maybe? ;);)

hmm interesting :D going to do that now :p

[greasydude]

If we go with the transparency idea, the pit host should have the ability to toggle it on/off for the sake of demo derbies.
Demo derbies were popular in the days of MCO and I believe the popularity will hold in MWO seeing the interest of it on these forums.

Also, if everyone in the race has finished except for one person, the race should end after a minute or so, if that person still hasn't finished by then. =)

[roadweasel]

Collision on/off has my vote so the pit host can decide when they create the pit.

[ROKKET]

i would have to agree with RW , i personaly don't want to set a race have some lil kid come in start race and demoilish my ride due to lack of skillz

[Ayce]

C-off has it's place when starting out with newbs, or suspect drivers, and it should be up to the pit creator to decide. In PU we used CD-off so it was just driver skill that prevailed, and if you screwed up, as I often did in the beginning, you didn't take someone with you.
This should be specified on the race list.
As far as driving backwards goes, I agree with the transparency trick, but only for a limited time. If a race were set to "no resets" and someone gets spun around, they can get back on track without wrecking someone. Once pointed in the right direction, the car would be "solid" again. That's another issue. Resets. We should have the ability to set them on or off, or limit the time before a reset will work, like PU did. If you lost it, the reset wouldn't work until your car came to a stop. This would prevent "reset cheats" who would hit the button at the first sign of trouble, (I'm guilty of that in games that permit it. :redface: ) and end up solid in front of someone. :eek:

Whoops, maybe this should be it the features thread. :redface:

[cobra96]

another vote for collision on/off...i believe i made a request for it in the offical features thread :D