Fuel regulations admitted by the donkey king himself

[Allegedman]

fuel regulations by obama (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/05/obama_to_announ.html)

ALL HAIL THE DONKEY KING!!!!

/not! FaIL

[KEN]

Higher gas prices here we come again.

[roadweasel]

I think they should put scale pads at gas pumps and you pay per pound. Gas stations are already governed by a "weights and measures" mentality. Little gas saver cars get gas cheap as they should because they're lightweight, and the people who can afford the bigger and more luxuriously proportioned engines, muscle cars, luxury cars, motor homes, trucks, boats etc. can also afford to pay more for gas.

[cargasm]

I think they should put scale pads at gas pumps and you pay per pound. Gas stations are already governed by a "weights and measures" mentality. Little gas saver cars get gas cheap as they should because they're lightweight, and the people who can afford the bigger and more luxuriously proportioned engines, muscle cars, luxury cars, motor homes, trucks, boats etc. can also afford to pay more for gas.

so.. the same thing costs more or less for different people? is that suposed to be a joke.. or somthing? :confused:

altho i woudnt mind that.. id buy a golf cart to keep in the back of my el camino.. when ever i need gas.. unload it drive it to the pump and get some cheap gas then dump it into the el camino..
wait what if i just walk to the pump with a spare tank and no car do i get free gas? :fight:

[Kurrupt_Midtown]

Eh as the owner of an Expedition and a Navigator I would not mind this at all for the whole weight of vehicle to price per gallon thing. But what happens if you own a very light weight built Camaro or Mustang? It would cost a nice penny to make it light weight but then they will also save at the pump too for it weighing less than factory or what ever.

Or you would see people going bumper to bumper at pumps with lighter cars to get a better price per gallon price...

Eh I guess i just like big vehicles lol I was born and raised in the south where big bodies are a way of life for us. Don't want to screw all of us in the south because our cars weigh 2k lbs for than your average Import car. But hey I'll drive in style and get 12 mpg with the 98 Expedition and 17mpg with the Navigator before i buy a civic or Altima any day. Keep it domestic i say ;-)

Edit: Or did i misread what you typed RW?

[[OWO]ChevyBigBlock]

Well, if I take a look out of the window, I have a beautyfull view at the local gas station.
There it says 1,30€/l. That´s roughly 6.87$/gallon!:eek:

But I keep my fingers crossed, that you´ll never have to deal with this kind of fuel pricing und taxes.
Your part of the deal is to get me a greencard and a pilot job :D

[roadweasel]

so.. the same thing costs more or less for different people? is that suposed to be a joke.. or somthing? :confused:


Um... happens all the time in case you've been in a coma for the past... LIFETIME... internet service, phone service, interest rates, and so on. Yeah, if someone sunk a 7.0 into a pinto they might get their gas a bit cheaper. The guy who can afford to fill his motor home can afford a quarter a gallon more and give the poor siingle mom raising kids, driving a geo the break on gas prices she needs.
My idea sure beats having a gps device installed on your car so the government can track you by the mile!

[Frank]

There never is a perfect solution but I can share some information from this side of the pond. In DK since 1997 we've had an annual tax based on the fuel-economy and fuel-type of the car using the EU test average. Diesel-cars are more expensive than gasoline-cars with the same km/l economy due to increased polution but the classes of fuel-economy for diesels goes up way higher before reaching the cheapest price, which is actually very cheap. Electric cars are exempt from annual tax, as well as the 180% registration tax, until road-pricing that is.

However from 2011 for trucks (real trucks, not pick-ups) and from 2015 for passenger-cars then Denmark will have national road-pricing where you pay per km, but that's not the bad news. The bad news is that there are several parameters that dictate the price and I don't have a clue on how to figure out if I'll have enough money to pay the bill. The parameters that to my knowledge have been officially confirmed are: What road are you driving, how much traffic is on the road (and I assume that also incorporates time of day), is there public transportation nearby you could've used instead and probably other parameters as well.

The tax based on fuel-economy is not perfect but for newer cars I think it's better than weight-tax which we had before. It is however really annoying to read in car-forums about people going in to the mandatory car-check every 2 years (for cars 4 years or older to check emissions and safety (brakes, steering, lights etc.)) and hear how owners replace their tuner-ECU right before the test and then replacing it right after leaving the place. Especially since national news had tested a cheap mass-producted (ie, not specifically made for the individual car) tuner-chip for a popular compact turbodiesel and while it gave an additional 20% power it increased polution by no less than 300% There are many other cheap tricks for turbodieselcar-drivers that is claimed to increase horsepower but in reality either does nothign, or increase wear and/or just use more fuel and send out more polution due to decreased combustion efficiency with not 1 extra hp.

There is however another very important, and interesting note around polution and cars. It's not just driving a car that creates polution, there's also polution when making the parts for the car and the more parts you put in a car, the more polution you get when making that car. A study showed that when taking into consideration the polution for the entire life-cycle of a car: Design, construction, normal use, maintanence and scrapping then an old Jeep was way more friendly to the enviroment than a Toyota Prius hybrid. Of course you can't get exact figures on how much polution was released but it does open some eyes to the bigger picture. I also think it's good proof that all the extra luxury gadgets many cars have now also have a negative impact, both on polution but also the wallet due to increase in the cost of maintanence and increased failures due to the heavy increase in number parts for each car compared to just a few years ago. Furthermore you need a bigger battery and generator which means less engine-power and more weight. And personally I've found that some of these so-called comfort gadgets actually directly get in the way of operating the car of course that's just me, some other people migth very well get some good use of these functions, or at least I hope they do.

Btw, right now then RON 95 unleaded (high-quality sulfur-free) gasoline costs just over 7 USD per us gallon.

Frank

[roadweasel]

That sounds like a nightmare, Frank! I'm glad I don't have to administer that plan! Does go to show you it could get lots worse here.