MCO/World Online thread

[Mafia Boy]

Yahoo news is reporting about EA splitting the Need For Speed franchse into three different genres. One of them caught my eye. Check out the link.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap_en_ot/games_need_for_speed
Do you think EA might be jealous?

[Javelin]

We have kinda been discussing this in another thread but bottom line, I dont trust EA as far as I can throw them. They are all about the bottom line. When/if it comes out, I will be cautious to say the least. Dont expect anything like MCO. I damm sure dont want to give more monthly fees to them. I just did that for the POS Warhammer and dropped it after 3 months.

I will wait and see and like I said elsewhere, my moneys (literally) with MWO.

[Allegedman]

It's going to start off seriously, change format and then be a joke. People will play it and then love it (The folk here won't take kindly to it) and then something new will be brought into the game, people will hate it and then quit and the staff will be fired and servers will be shut down and MWO will still be here

answer your question for you?

no were not jealous, were doing our own thing and were happy and stubborn to try anything else.

[Mafia Boy]

I just found it funny that they decided to call it Need For Speed WORLD ONLINE. Kinda sounds like a jealous factor. Most likely the game is not going to be like Motor World. I'm sure its going to be newer cars especially imports. Just like they tried at the end of Motor City. I'm just curious how this will be accepted by the old Motor City community.

[roadweasel]

moved to gaming chat

[BlakjeKaas]

I like the fact that this WILL be better than previous NFS'es

[hotrod]

EA gets no more of my money. Period. I said it when they closed MCO and I'm saying it now..FU EA!!!

Edit:

In fact, to back up my mouth, I just made a $50 donation. And, there will be more sent as MWO progresses.

I wonder if MWO-donaters will get cop cars in game where we can pull over other players, drag them out of their cars, beat the snot outta them (in freeworld mode) and then steal parts off their cars?

[DevilMan]

I'll be honest, and say that I would give both the 360 game, and the PC games a look at least. Especially if there are demo's, I will give it a shot.

[gcountach]

I like to throw this out there now so if it happens, I can say I told you so...

All 3 games will be practically the same, the name's just changed so they can call them three different entries. Why would they do that? I don't know.... but then again, I'm not the one who's an expert at running franchises into the ground.

[mrparrott]

I just stumbled upon this and thought it might be of interest,
especially the fourth paragraph where they talk about Need for Speed World Online
Please don't shoot the messenger

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6203924.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;1

[Scorp]

I think I speak for everyone here..............SCREW EA!

[Whiplash911]

we could all look at this from the standpoint of - now we have the ability to WATCH EA screw something else up from the sidelines and giggle our asses off

[Z28K]

This news from EA makes me wonder if they are watching the progress of MWO and suddenly realized maybe they should of done something to satisfy the muscle car world before someone else did.:fight:

[Dogboy]

Upon further reading.......

Shift: This is going after the GRID (Codemasters) crowd with a actual sim racing game. For those who never played GTR 1/2 or Evolution, this will be closer to a simulation than anything else.

Nitro: It looks like this is gonna be NFS meets Cartoon playland. The screen shot makes the Charger look a bit Ed Roth-esque (distorted proportions).

World Online: Underground meets MCO (only with all the cool MCO elements removed). One thing that caught me off guard is the "free" online play. I don't know how they intend to keep servers up for this one when we were paying for MCO and it still shut down. I see a major fallout in the future of this one, 2 years down the road and the servers get shut off......

Please note that there are 3 seperate design studios working on these. I noticed a few posts on the NFS forums where people were asking how Black Box can produce 3 games at once and get it right. 3 different studios should produce 3 very unique games. Judging by the former SimBin guys past work, Shift should be very accurate when it comes to modeling and physics, something EA could only come close to doing once with Porsche Unleashed.

[cargasm]

here is my theory on the "free to play"
whens the last time it seemed like ea made an nfs game ment to be played a year or two after you bought it? right.. never.. why? so you buy their next game instead of playing the old one..
they prolly arent planning on having the servers up 2 years from now plus like every other ea game im sure its going to be full of advertisments
or it could be like undercover where you can buy cars and parts with real money

[Allegedman]

we have another thread for this, that was started earlier

http://www.motorworldonline.net/forum/showthread.php?t=487 other thread

[KEN]

I'm thinking its going to be more Test Drive meets NFS then revisiting MCO. You wont be able to buy parts or anything just performance upgrades. Either way everytime I say I'm down and done with an EA game I still check it out. Kind of like how I promise I will NEVER watch that horrid new Knight Rider show EVER again, but I do it anyway. Where can I hide this NFS Undercover disc so no one knows....

[KEN]

We'll merge this post with the other one in a few hours. Till then guys please use the link allegedman has posted. Thanks guys!

[KRB]

I'm thinking its going to be more Test Drive meets NFS then revisiting MCO. You wont be able to buy parts or anything just performance upgrades. Either way everytime I say I'm down and done with an EA game I still check it out. Kind of like how I promise I will NEVER watch that horrid new Knight Rider show EVER again, but I do it anyway. Where can I hide this NFS Undercover disc so no one knows....


Ken you and me both, except for Knight Rider :P

Remember how excited I was to play NFS:Pro Street based on the info on the net. Then was royaly let down just as we both thought was going to happen.

I guess we are suckers for punishment.

[Allegedman]

NFS WORLD ONLINE
GS: Given EA's history with Motor City Online (2001-2003), why did it feel like it should return to the massively multiplayer racing genre?

KM: Need for Speed World Online is more about exploration into the free-to-play model that is growing at a fast pace, rather than a straight-up MMO persistent world such as Motor City Online.

GS: What lessons from Motor City Online's failure is EA bringing to the new game?

KM: From a game perspective, the largest difference is that where Motor City Online featured American classics and muscle from the '30s to the '70s, Need for Speed World Online is steeped in modern car culture, featuring many of the vehicles familiar to our fans from the past few years. But the business model and player interaction is also very different--unfortunately, I can't discuss details on these aspects yet.

GS: Why is this launching in Asia first?

KM: Asia has proven itself as a rich market for online-only games. Once Need for Speed World Online has been successfully deployed in Asia, we will expand the game's reach by offering the service to PC gamers around the world.

GS: Will this game use licensed vehicles?

KM: Yes, that is core to Need for Speed. In fact, Need for Speed World Online will give fans the most licensed cars, parts, and game modes ever in Need for Speed's history.

taken from http://www.gamespot.com/news/6203924.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;1

im saying business model of fail!!

[Jake Ryan]

Bullshit! EA sighted the classic cars in MCO as the reason it failed!

[killastang]

Bullshit! EA sighted the classic cars in MCO as the reason it failed!

Exactly, IMO the new cars are what ruined MCO.

:fight:

[wade454]

I think the real reason MCO failed was the lack of promotion for the game. I know the 1 time i saw a comerical on Spike TV I ran out and picked it up and started playing that was about 2 years befor sunset. I never saw another comerical for MCO.

[killastang]

Promotion definately helps

:fight:

[Taigo]

the largest difference is that where Motor City Online featured American classics and muscle from the '30s to the '70s, Need for Speed World Online is steeped in modern car culture, featuring many of the vehicles familiar to our fans from the past few years.

By God!, that might be right!

Okay.. Sounds perfect,
let´s see how long it lasts.
Any guesses!?

A year?! too much?

[roadweasel]

Merged AND moved to gaming chat as this is not on topic to OUR game MWO.

[Dajmin]

There are a couple of reasons MCO failed and the car selection isn't one of them (the Japanese cars were only added as an attempt to get the NFS:U crowd interested).

Firstly, they totally failed to actually market it. It was never released in a box in Europe (at least not in any of the stores I went to after the beta ended). I assume it would have been the same elsewhere - I always just thought it was classic American cars for an American market. But I love the muscle era so I was on board.

Secondly, it was a very early iteration of what's commonly called "instancing" now; where you and your party go through a mission by yourselves in a seperate part of the game from the population. People thought it was going to be an open world and races would be done sort of like Burnout Paradise, but obviously they were wrong.
I didn't mind that because I understood the technical limitations and I didn't want to race just anybody anyway - the ones we had were plenty.

But nobody was open to the idea back then. It wasn't until MMOs like Everquest, WoW and Guild Wars started making it mainstream that people really "got" the benefits of it. I think rereleased now with that in the marketing could make it a success (and obviously an updated engine).

The last reason was that EA pushed them to program it on the previous NFS engine rather than their new spangly Porsche Unleased / NFSU one. Maybe if it had even better graphics more people would have shown an interest. As it was, people were like "but Porsche looks way better so why would I go for the worse one?".

It was a damn shame though.

[roadweasel]

I think if it had been marketed to hot rod magazine freaks instead of computer geeks it would have soared. (if it would have been marketed at all it would have done way better.) Lots of people LOVE muscle cars but will never own one. Personally I think an online automobile collector game would go great if it was done in the manner of an online archive of automotive history making it possible to eventually own one of everything in an environment relative to it's era.
Porsche Unleashed was and still is a great game ( www.iplounge.net ) although it needed more in the way of tuning in the manner of mco. The way you could start out in the 50's buying an old Porsche and move through the years purchasing newer and newer cars was cool. The tracks were great, the handling of the cars was super.

[KEN]

If only there was a way to port all the old tracks from MCO to Porshe Unleashed....

[Sub]

If only there was a way to port all the old tracks from MCO to Porshe Unleashed....

Hmm - are there custom tracks in NFS: PU? If so, anyone know how it's done?

When i'm finished with Skoggit i could look into porting it over. Though, who knows if the PU engine could handle the more complex geometry that the track builder spits out. Worth a shot, i suppose.

[DevilMan]

I think I did more advertising then EA did for MCO. I told everyone I knew that was a car nut about the game. But just telling someone, just isn't the same as a commercial. IF they would done spots, where car guys watch TV the game would still be around today, and be the most popular game for racing. Hind sight is 20/20 though, and hopefully EA learned from their mistakes.. However, whom ever that guy GS talked to, seems like he probaby wasn't even around when MCO was, as he has NO idea why it failed.

[Arcane Hayter]

If they would have ran ads during the Barret Jackson live shows it would have killed and might have made it to a 2.0 status at some point.

[Calisse]

The game lacked advertising, for sure, but lots of people were turned off by having to fine-tune their first few cars so they would take a curve without spinning out. Don't get me wrong, tuning the cars was the best feature of the game, but if the first impression is that the cars drive like doggie-doo, the game isn't worth paying $10 a month for.

And when another racer offered his help to tune newbie's cars, they would steal it away in a trade such as "trade it to me, I'll fix it up and trade it back to you".

[Jake Ryan]

The cars handled bad stock because thats how classic cars handle stock at 100 mph. MCO wasn't supposed to be another NFS arcade racer, and wasn't.

[KRB]

MCO was never very Newbie friendly.

Most players who came mid game where people willing to go through the learning curve, or got help from Vets.

Another reason MCO failed.

[FuzzyDice21]

I think there where a couple reasons MCO failed first advertising, the only reason I ever found out about the game was my older brother was into computer games and we went to the mall one day. I saw it and thought Id try it (2002). Second paying ten bucks a month to always loose cuz vets had the best of the best, getting scammed, or massive lag. third and finally there was no freedom to the game, driving around, trying to hang with your friends, or a classic ea move advertising something that isnt in the game like with my favorite FPS battlefield 2. I can say though if they would try to redo MCO it would not be half as good as the original (Transformers, Knight Rider, G.I. Joe) I would rather remember MCO as the awesome game it was then have them make it again and take a dump all over those memories.

[Jake Ryan]

I also wonder if we are going to be able to stop people from selling MWO bucks for real money.

[KRB]

I also wonder if we are going to be able to stop people from selling MWO bucks for real money.

Its almost impossible too.

If someone decides to sell it and wants to cover it up, just sell a scrap car for whatever 10,000,000

Its a difficult thing to police.

[Sub]

I would rather remember MCO as the awesome game it was then have them make it again and take a dump all over those memories.

Hahahaha - this thread should probably end with that.

[roadweasel]

Was just reading a bit more about the new EA world online. here's a quote:
"Perhaps the most innovative of the games announced today is Need for Speed World Online. This is a Play 4 Free racing game designed exclusively for the PC. The game will give Need for Speed fans the most licensed cars, parts and game modes ever in Need for Speed’s history. Players will prove their racing supremacy through the sophisticated online matchmaking features and the more flamboyant gamers will get the chance to show off their skills through customizable rides and user profiles."
wtf, I wonder, is a "sophisticated online matchmaking feature" - you don't get to pick and choose who you race with? As simple as the MCO main chat and chat room features were, I still think it should be up to you who you race with.

[421HO]

"sophisticated online matchmaking feature" sounds like eHarmony, or better yet, EAHarmony.

In all seriousness, I do not believe they will ever do another MCO style game, they may make an MMO, but it will not be exclusive to muscle cars and much like many other EA online ventures, will be short lived.

[roadweasel]

yeah - "free" and EA seem to contradict each other. I can't see it lasting.

[DevilMan]

Oh BOY!!! Another free online game from EA to PC users.
Here is a prime example of what to expect from EA and their free games http://www.battlefield-heroes.com/ Lets see, first EA promised it would be ready summer 2008. Then it was pushed back to fall, then we were told winter. Now they are saying spring 2009, but they are just about to start another round of beta testing. So don't expect any racing game from EA thats free,.. until about 2011.

That sophisitcated online matchmaking does sound like EAharmony to me. To me it sounds like they decide who to match you up against. Sounds like it will match you to other racers that run the same times as you to make an even race and no one gets their feelings hurt and everyone wins.... that way no one feels like a loser. I personally liked taking peoples cars in pinks races in MCO. Nothing felt better, then offering to sell a person their car back because I stomped them in a pinks race :)

[Allegedman]

Oh BOY!!! Another free online game from EA to PC users.
Here is a prime example of what to expect from EA and their free games http://www.battlefield-heroes.com/ Lets see, first EA promised it would be ready summer 2008. Then it was pushed back to fall, then we were told winter. Now they are saying spring 2009, but they are just about to start another round of beta testing. So don't expect any racing game from EA thats free,.. until about 2011.

That sophisitcated online matchmaking does sound like EAharmony to me. To me it sounds like they decide who to match you up against. Sounds like it will match you to other racers that run the same times as you to make an even race and no one gets their feelings hurt and everyone wins.... that way no one feels like a loser. I personally liked taking peoples cars in pinks races in MCO. Nothing felt better, then offering to sell a person their car back because I stomped them in a pinks race :)


no friend lists or clan races either

need for speed world online tried to kill the warcraft but the NFS world online failed then crashed and burned into a wreck of despair.

[roadweasel]

I don't get the fact that they don't want people to associate! For me, it was being able to associate with your pals AND race them that was fun. That's what building cool cars and racing them is about, you brag up you and your buddies stuff and race with them, and go up against clubs or other racers. Being able to chat with them before and after sets the mood for racing! If I don't know who I'm racing because the game sets me up with challenges it might as well be AI.

[mike71]

sadly some of the people they cater to with those games would need to much baby sitting in the chat rooms. its already bad enough with world of warcrack haha

[killastang]

sadly some of the people they cater to with those games would need to much baby sitting in the chat rooms. its already bad enough with world of warcrack haha

The general chat in WoW is sooooo disgusting sometimes.

:fight:

[Javelin]

Thought I heard yesterday EA laid off a bunch of people, did I hear it was 1100? not sure.

[KRB]

Thought I heard yesterday EA laid off a bunch of people, did I hear it was 1100? not sure.

http://www.vancouversun.com/Life/announces+significant+layoffs+Vancouver+Black+stud io/1207476/story.html

Thats what you were thinking about.

Keith

[roadweasel]

sadly some of the people they cater to with those games would need to much baby sitting in the chat rooms. its already bad enough with world of warcrack haha

when they show up in our chat rooms we'll be showing them the door. We don't care about their money so we will boot 'em as soon as they start their pottymouthin ways.:ciao:

[CJuk]

when they show up in our chat rooms we'll be showing them the door. We don't care about their money so we will boot 'em as soon as they start their pottymouthin ways.:ciao:

Pleased to hear it the mwo community doesnt need people like that floating about in it.

[KRB]

damn potty mouths.....some peoples kids.

[gentjt38]

I say let EA do what they are gonna do. I've not seem many of their online games stay afloat cept for that sword game which i found pretty boring. Game so boring i can't even remember the name to it. HA HA. I loved MCO though. Didn't care much for the cheaters in the game since they loved to take all the fun out of driving the courses and then lie and blame it on lag when they used a cheat that nobody knew about. They shut down MCO for them Underground NFS games and sorry I found them about the most boring NFS game's I've played. I stopped buying them after the first underground came out and haven't bought a NFS game since. I miss my classic and muscle cars which you don't find in them newer NFS games. I had a garage full of them in MCO. Hope to get them all again with MWO.

[Nazz]

I'll stick with MWO, I'll never trust EA again. I been steering clear of their games ever since the end of Motor city online.

[BoDarville]

After reading through this thread I love how there are people all over EA and its BS.

I never knew there were so many of us so pissed off until I found MWO. It is just nice to know I wasn't the only one that cared.

[BloodJunkie]

They definitely could have marketed it better.. I live in NZ and it was never for sale here i ordered it online amazed it actually got to me considering how badly the address was written...

I think it possibly could have been a bit before its time gaming was no where near as mainstream as it is now.. And highspeed internet wasnt as common. Most gamers back then were kids and geeks generally neither of those groups know much about cars mechanics.. No offence to any real geeks who are geraheads... It was really suited to the real hod rod and muscle car racers. The game was an invaluable tool for simulating modifications to your real car without actually getting your hands dirty.. Unfortunately i think most of those guys that would have loved it werent really into games or computers for that matter...
Most gamers back then probably didnt know what a camshaft was let alone what one to install in their car. I can imagine that alot of them were daunted by the possibilities and got sick of getting beaten and quit...

[BoDarville]

I think the real reason MCO failed was the lack of promotion for the game. I know the 1 time i saw a comerical on Spike TV I ran out and picked it up and started playing that was about 2 years befor sunset. I never saw another comerical for MCO.

I am not even a game guy. I was walking through the best buy with my two sons while they shopped and just happened to see the box. That is how I found MCO.

They will never be able to explain how a game that was bringing in 4 million buck a year wasnt kept going. EVER!!

[BoDarville]

I also wonder if we are going to be able to stop people from selling MWO bucks for real money.


When I gave up MCO I sold my money and cars for over $300 on ebay. Then with in a month ebay stopped all those kinds of sales.

[Matty]

yeal i sold off my cash and cars for paintball equipment lol. I must say id rather be playing paintball than any NSF underground crap. The records have proven that EA's release of NFS titles, have plummeted since Underground. In the end, MWO is gonna get the upperhand on NSF. Who needs hydrolics on a car? Seriously? Show me one reason why they would implement such a stupid feature other than to shake or lift the car slightly.. Id rather take a fuzzy dice and a vanity plate over gooft body kits and neon package any day.

Imma build a MWO Shrine, with EA's complete collection of NFS titles in honor of its up and coming MMORG Reign !!! Muahahahaha... muahahahahaha.. muahahahahaha *narf*

[BoDarville]

yeal i sold off my cash and cars for paintball equipment lol. I must say id rather be playing paintball than any NSF underground crap. The records have proven that EA's release of NFS titles, have plummeted since Underground. In the end, MWO is gonna get the upperhand on NSF. Who needs hydrolics on a car? Seriously? Show me one reason why they would implement such a stupid feature other than to shake or lift the car slightly.. Id rather take a fuzzy dice and a vanity plate over gooft body kits and neon package any day.

Imma build a MWO Shrine, with EA's complete collection of NFS titles in honor of its up and coming MMORG Reign !!! Muahahahaha... muahahahahaha.. muahahahahaha *narf*

You so Crazy!!!8-}

[Scorp]

When I gave up MCO I sold my money and cars for over $300 on ebay. Then with in a month ebay stopped all those kinds of sales.

Only $300? I got $650 for mine. :D I believe I purchased new tires with the cash.

[KEN]

yeal i sold off my cash and cars for paintball equipment lol. I must say id rather be playing paintball than any NSF underground crap. The records have proven that EA's release of NFS titles, have plummeted since Underground. In the end, MWO is gonna get the upperhand on NSF. Who needs hydrolics on a car? Seriously? Show me one reason why they would implement such a stupid feature other than to shake or lift the car slightly.. Id rather take a fuzzy dice and a vanity plate over gooft body kits and neon package any day.

Imma build a MWO Shrine, with EA's complete collection of NFS titles in honor of its up and coming MMORG Reign !!! Muahahahaha... muahahahahaha.. muahahahahaha *narf*

Need for Speed Sh!t... I mean Shift almost bankrupted the series. So much so that they closed 3 of their major studios and fired over 3000 people. Now Criterion Studios is making the next need for speed title after they release NFS World Online (how long will a free to download free to play game last with them since they weren't happy with the millions MCO was making them every year?) Criterion? Oh you know the guys who make the Burnout series. Could be interesting.

[roadweasel]

I just shake my head when I think how EA gave us such excellent games such as Porsche Unleashed & MCO then followed it up with such crap. They were on to something when they fostered "community". To create a cool environment, then take it away and replace it with inferior drivel, is the height of ignorance in my opinion.

[BoDarville]

I just shake my head when I think how EA gave us such excellent games such as Porsche Unleashed & MCO then followed it up with such crap. They were on to something when they fostered "community". To create a cool environment, then take it away and replace it with inferior drivel, is the height of ignorance in my opinion.

Amen Sister...:>

[gcountach]

Need for Speed Sh!t... I mean Shift almost bankrupted the series. So much so that they closed 3 of their major studios and fired over 3000 people. Now Criterion Studios is making the next need for speed title after they release NFS World Online (how long will a free to download free to play game last with them since they weren't happy with the millions MCO was making them every year?) Criterion? Oh you know the guys who make the Burnout series. Could be interesting.
If Criterion can make NFS as fun as burnout, then I'll buy it. Have you all played Burnout online? That's how NFS SHOULD be. Arcadish, fast, and full of spectacular, car crushing wrecks. Oh, and cops which burnout has now.

[Pie]

I loved NFS:PU... wonder what happened to my disks... I have all my other NFS games...

[KEN]

NFS: PU was the best game in the series in my opinion. Which goes with out saying MCO was built on the same engine they used for PU. I'm not a Porsche fan by any means but the game was just so damn fun.

[Pie]

NFS: PU was the best game in the series in my opinion. Which goes with out saying MCO was built on the same engine they used for PU. I'm not a Porsche fan by any means but the game was just so damn fun.

I agree. I would play for hours just cruising around and stuff.

[Ayce]

Yes, yes it was/is. :)

[roadweasel]

agreed - and you can still play it online via the iplounge!

[elitebyford]

I think the real reason MCO failed was the lack of promotion for the game. I know the 1 time i saw a comerical on Spike TV I ran out and picked it up and started playing that was about 2 years befor sunset. I never saw another comerical for MCO.

he he he, thats because once you got back home and installed and patched, you was glued to yer tush till it was black and blue, you never watched tv again until the smoke cleared, i know i didnt!!!! no your right though, very very little ad. for it, matter of fact i didnt see any commercials for it until after at least a month of buying it, i was just walkin around aimlessly in wal-mart one day and i happend to be directed to that infamous 69 stang, and i though dude, that is awesome *wipe away drool* my only regreat was putting it back on the shelf and contemplating for a week weather or not it was going to be worth 40 bux plus a monthly fee. since sunset, the only ea game i have purchased has been the sims castaway, cuz it was in the discount bin and the ol lady though it would be neat, so tech. i didnt buy it, she did. i have seen a few of the newer ones, and even played pro-street at a party, but they can still kiss my ass. sure ill pick up the box and look at it, but garenteed i wont see anything resembling mco or american musle era, and i will put it back and sob and remember the good ol days. hopefully with a little miricle, we will have a beta by then and i can get my fix to help resist any stupid temptations....... *wink wink* no? COME ON GUYS IM GOING INSANE HERE!!!!!! ps. and GIRLS

[Matty]

I did the same thing.. i was walking around in Walmart and i noticed a car in the distance lol I never told my family that i needed a monthly fee but mom let me do it for anyway :D

[budman21901]

I found MCO at walmart. I had no idea it was monthly till i installed it. I thought what the hell, i will give it a month. In 10 minutes i was calling my neighbor to show him. We bought a 32 ford (because it was cheap) and played all night to build a motor. We was cringing so tight for cash it didn't have any power when it was done, but we was still proud of it!! That was before money was easy on MCO. When i started if you didn't win something you didn't make anything. It was almost impossible to advance then. What a amazing game that was! It's hard to believe it didn't survive.

[BoDarville]

I found MCO at walmart. I had no idea it was monthly till i installed it. I thought what the hell, i will give it a month. In 10 minutes i was calling my neighbor to show him. We bought a 32 ford (because it was cheap) and played all night to build a motor. We was cringing so tight for cash it didn't have any power when it was done, but we was still proud of it!! That was before money was easy on MCO. When i started if you didn't win something you didn't make anything. It was almost impossible to advance then. What a amazing game that was! It's hard to believe it didn't survive.

They never tried to make MCO bigger. I was christmas shopping for my boys and happened to see it on the shelf at best buy. I had NEVER heard of anything like MCO. 18 months later I had to give it up and got my life back.

[Tiqi]

All Classic era NFS'ers in here? I'm probably the only one who liked UG-UG2-MW-C? I'm defenitely buying NFS:WO, Most Wanted and Carbon have always been my favourites. Partially because there's more American Muscle (especially in Carbon, and in Most Wanted too with the addons) but mostly because of the customization options. If I would have ever gotten the chance to play MCO, customization would have probably been the part I'd like about it.

[HotRoddin]

I really Don't care WTF ea is doing, or un-doing.They could suck the numbers right off my shifter and I still would'nt give them a dime.

[Fatt_Tony_13]

I really Don't care WTF ea is doing, or un-doing.They could suck the numbers right off my shifter and I still would'nt give them a dime.

Im sure there is someone there that would do that for you.

[Imhy Yrstnd]

I was curious if anyone has seen the new MCO2(NFSOnline) yet? I won't go there because it's an EAGames product . I haven't purchased or played anything from EA since the killing of MCO. But I would like to know what others, who may not have the hatred of EA as I do, think of MCO2 and how it compares with the original. Mainly if the graphics have improved and if it is in anyway better then the first MCO. That may give our developers some insite into what should or should not be part of our community.
Russ aka Imhy Yrstnd(Pres.)
Motor City Saints
Uptown Pacific
Motor City Online
NVR55(agin)

[A.Kueffler]

nope i haven't even heard of it yet

[Fatt_Tony_13]

I think the cars are all newer. That was the one thing I liked about MCO. The old cars, it was fun to be at the drag strip in my nomad.

[KEN]

Plenty of threads on this one guys, moving to general chat.

[kintek]

I know this is a old thread, but I never seen so much EA hate in a while online.

I am sure I'll get flamed for putting this.

Several cars like we would expect and the world is free roam like they have said. Free play is correct, but will prolly pay for things if you want to later on like a shopping chart or something. This is just from others letting all use know.

I doubt most of you really care about it, just thought i'd put this out here though.

sorry had to edit the post from how I had it.

[Tiqi]

lOlz, I could've signed up for the beta test, and a few months ago I would've certainly done that, but since I came to Motor World Online I lost all of my interest in NFS:World Online. There's nothing that NFS:WO has to offer that MWO can't offer. But the other way around MWO has so much too offer than NFS:WO, like a close community, realism, educative aspects, ... and, maybe most important, a development team that is willing to listen to it's community.

[Cheefa]

I agree with the above, this has been the closest we all have ever been to bringing MCO Back to Life. Wait I mean MWO !!!! Cause MCO Won't have **** ON THIS! You guys I can't wait until its finished, im sure everyone else here can't either. I just wish I could do something to speed up the process and start testing so the finished product could be out and all the devs could make some money for making such a great game, I Wouldn't mind paying 20 Dollars First time, Then 15$ a month to play. That is nothing, to play a wonderful game like what this is going to be. HOORAY FOR MWO!!!

[Cheats]

I got 3 friends who siged up for NFS: WO beta and got it on last week. Not sure how it is because I don't want to talk to them anymore haha

[Pie]

I got 3 friends who siged up for NFS: WO beta and got it on last week. Not sure how it is because I don't want to talk to them anymore haha
Probably a lot like Shift (which sucks) with crappier graphics for online play, and filled with so much rice it's like a Chinese food restaurant.

[wade454]

The graphics are good but The play is choppy and unpredictable. Yes I am beta testing as far as that goes the game dosn't look that good and the game play is layed out even worse that undercover

[swematte]

I was curious if anyone has seen the new MCO2(NFSOnline) yet? I won't go there because it's an EAGames product . I haven't purchased or played anything from EA since the killing of MCO. But I would like to know what others, who may not have the hatred of EA as I do, think of MCO2 and how it compares with the original. Mainly if the graphics have improved and if it is in anyway better then the first MCO. That may give our developers some insite into what should or should not be part of our community.
Russ aka Imhy Yrstnd(Pres.)
Motor City Saints
Uptown Pacific
Motor City Online
NVR55(agin)


MCO2 is the Need for speed World Online..
The only available from the MCO is the driving sense.
It's a closed beta out now for NFS: WO
But I dont like it..

So now I hope that the MWO becomes the new and the same ass motor city online was.

Mathias

[Frank]

To my knowledge then Shift was based on the ISI gMotor, but it is horrible, all the feel you have in rFactor etc. is nowhere to be found and it's downright awful to drive that after having driven a league-race :(

NFS Online is said to be a combination of the cities from Most Wanted and Carbon, some of the staff at RacerPlanet (but not me) are testing it and confirming it is arcady but not that bad, but it'll probably attract a lot of rude kids when it's released :(

Frank

[kevmeister]

To my knowledge then Shift was based on the ISI gMotor, but it is horrible, all the feel you have in rFactor etc. is nowhere to be found and it's downright awful to drive that after having driven a league-race :(

NFS Online is said to be a combination of the cities from Most Wanted and Carbon, some of the staff at RacerPlanet (but not me) are testing it and confirming it is arcady but not that bad, but it'll probably attract a lot of rude kids when it's released :(

Frank

like RW says; "if all the kids wanna go play that...then that leaves our corner of the sandbox a little quieter..."

[celticfang]

To my knowledge then Shift was based on the ISI gMotor, but it is horrible, all the feel you have in rFactor etc. is nowhere to be found and it's downright awful to drive that after having driven a league-race :(


What???

I read it was based off of an in-house engine, not gmotor (whch ISI owns, not 10Tacle)

EDIT: VirtualR says it's their own engine

[Pie]

I play shift from time to time to feed the racing bug. It's just hard to enjoy it. I never use a car higher than class 2 with suspension, brakes, tires. And a custom tune to make it handle as close to correctly as possible.

Hopefully NFSWO does keep the annoying ricer kiddies away though.

[Z28K]

I'm in the Closed Beta. It is nothing like MCO. It is basically Most Wanted and Carbon combined. The only muscle car available in the beta right now is the 69 Charger. Can't even customize anything except paint and vinyl right now.

[kintek]

They had no intension to make this the MCO2 at all. They wanted a different route, if anything the game is more close to Burnout Paradise honestly with the setup and online play.

[Frank]

Sorry, I just read that somewhere, and sim-tools for F1C/rFactor/GTR and all the other more or less gMotor-based sims are now already supporting NFS:Shift 3D-editing, maybe 10tacle's engine is partly based on the gMotor? ISI do sell licenses of this engine to other game-developers, it's by no means exclusive to themselves.

I did wonder though how the heck a gMotor sim could be so impossible to get a feel for when driving and if they aren't using the gMotor after all then that could explain it.

Frank

[cobra96]

yeah all the kiddies who want to keep playing/buying that NFS crap can stay away from our green pastures...i hope it turns out to be the best ricer game ever that way when MWO releases they will not want to play our game and try to destroy our community

as for feeding ur driving urges...play GRID...sure u cant customize ur ride but u get to drive some really fun cars on some great tracks

[Matty]

Probably a lot like Shift (which sucks) with crappier graphics for online play, and filled with so much rice it's like a Chinese food restaurant.

Its not the rice that makes chinese food... its the MSG :D

[Matty]

yeah all the kiddies who want to keep playing/buying that NFS crap can stay away from our green pastures...i hope it turns out to be the best ricer game ever that way when MWO releases they will not want to play our game and try to destroy our community

as for feeding ur driving urges...play GRID...sure u cant customize ur ride but u get to drive some really fun cars on some great tracks

I love grid! we should pair up and destroy some posers :D I must say, ive been racing the Euro's and Formula's for quite some time. For some reason my stats dont update :(

[Pie]

I would play GRID but I sent it to my brother in Iraq so.... I'll get it back sometime mid-june lol.

[BoDarville]

I would play GRID but I sent it to my brother in Iraq so.... I'll get it back sometime mid-june lol.


Check out this guy playing a racing game



http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/just_plain_stupid/Grandfather_Plays_Wii/#245854